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LAMP's Stance
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Movie posters are a very unique type of collectible. Even though they have been compared to many different types of collectibles, they're not like any other type that we've been able find. Coins, stamps, comic books, figurines, depression glass and on and on were created in large quantities to be used or handled by the general public. This is the first major difference. Original movie posters were created to be used ONLY by a theater and then disposed of, which is one of the things that causes us to want it more. The second major reason is that this limited amount of disposable advertising is also on every conceivable topic under the sun. There is a topic that ANY type of person can identify with.
The first step would be to derive at our definition of the term "FAKE". To keep this as simple as possible, LAMP's stance is that a FAKE is a poster that is created to imitate another poster with the INTENT to defraud someone out of ADDITIONAL funds under the misconception that they are obtaining the original poster.
Commercial posters, reprint posters, and reissues obviously don't fall into this catagory because they were created for a specfic purpose. A reprint trying to be passed off to a collector as an original does NOT make the reprint a FAKE, it makes the dealer trying to pass it off a CROOK.
This very unique hobby also creates very unique problems when attempting to categorize and document all the many, many variations that have been created. Here's a few examples:
1. Over the years, major theaters quite often created their own individual material for particular theaters or campaigns that the other theaters didn't have.
a. George Eastman bought his own theater in Rochester, NY in the 20s. Wanting to make his place a showplace, he REFUSED to use any studio issued advertising material. He hired local artist Baptiste Magdalena to specially create ALL his ad material. From 1924 to 1928 over 1400 fantastic pieces were created. The majority were trashed and only a few hundred survived.
b. Major theaters have been known to create all types of oddities for their individual theaters to help promote an individual film. These fall into all types of crazy oddites from horizontal one sheets to hand painted plywood posters.
2. To find cheaper or more creative promotional material, theaters and theater chains turned to other sources for producing different variations. These other companies such as Leader Press, the Other Company, Globe, Hatch, Benton just to name a few of the literally HUNDREDS used all types of different materials than the studio issued material. Some became known for their type of variations such as Bentons duotone window cards, Globes dayglow posters, Hatch's block stamp posters etc. So different paper stocks, different versions and different markings were common.
3. When the studios shifted to the use of National Screen, of course this constituted an unbelievable amount of printing to supply this myriad of theaters and movie titles. Multiple printing operations and a huge management system had to be established to handle this massive amount volume. With the acquisition of Continental Litho, all phases from creation to distribution could then be handled in-house creating all types of OTHER variations when deadlines were trying to be met.
a. Multiple print shops meant different varitations of markings from one print shop to the other. One shop might have the NSS number and the title. Another shop might only have the NSS tag and NSS number but forget the title, etc.
b. Multiple print shops also meant varying mistakes on the posters. Wrong NSS numbers on the wrong titles, wrong credits, misspelled STARS names, and every form of misprint imaginable. One color variation on one famous poster that has been classified by many collectors as a fake, was just a mistake in mixing the number codes by one of the print shops.
4. Studios haven't been the friends of poster collectors either but then why should they be. Their only concern is: promote the current film, then move to the next one. This one track single-minded purpose has also created several problems for collectors such as:
a. Not wanting to be charged for free give aways, it's quite common for the studio to also create primarily one sheets to be handed out that don't contain the regular distribution markings.
b. To keep the ad cost down, some studios use the same material for multiple purposes without marking them accordingly. Ratings boxes sometimes left off during rating negotiations, US material used for international promotions, and even theater posters used in the video stores.

Does any of these situations constitute any of these posters being classified as a 'FAKE'. Of course not!! They're just variations that make classifying a fake more difficult.

Here's the problem situations that we have to consider:

I. When the studios took over the distribution of materials from NSS, they placed the production of the posters in the commercial realm of business and opened up a new set of problems for collectors. An area that you never hear about but is probably the most common of all problems in commercial distribution is over production. This is done every day in just about EVERY type of industry right under our noses and movie posters are definitely no exception. When companies make a low bid to get a commercial contract, they quite often don't stop production when the contract is finished....... in other words .... they let the presses keep running. Then they normally have someone ready to pay for the over production. This way the company makes up for the low bid. Of course, this is hard to prove but definitely a part of every day business in the US. So additional posters are produced that get on the market.

Is this a FAKE? No because it's the identical piece made at the same time by the same company. It's not trying to pass for a poster from years earlier. It's not a fake...... it's just a sham! There's no way to tell the difference, and ultimately it affects the value of the poster depending upon how many were produced. WE BELIEVE THIS IS DONE MORE THAN YOU THINK.

II. Another situation would not involve the company, but quite often the printer is approached to pull a plate and run additional posters without the knowledge of the company. Yes, this too is done quite often. There is no way of telling how many times this has been done and what titles it affects because the probability is that the majority of the time, the poster would not be distinguishable from the others released through normal distribution. The only hope is to find some way to distinguish these from the legitimate posters. With no records, no documentation, the myriad of variations already existing, the changing of hands multiple times makes most of these hard to identify. The dealer doing this is a real CROOK. Unfortunately sometimes honest legitimate dealers wind up with some of these believing whole heartedly that they are part of the normal distribution.

III. The last is the unscrupulous person who takes a poster to a friend that owns a print shop and convinces them to try to produce posters to be passed off as the poster that was issued. THESE SCAM ARTISTS ARE OF THE WORST SORTS WITH NO INTENT EXCEPT FRAUD ON THEIR MINDS.

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Where does LAMP stand on the problems? These are the areas that are considered FAKES.

On I. There's no way to tell these and nothing can be done.

On II. This is the most controversial area of all with hard to prove finger pointing and accusations between DEALERS. LAMP does not condone these but at the same time LAMP is not set up to be a judge or take sides. We take the stance to report as much information as is available to the collector and try to make the collector aware that conflicting controversy exists on that piece. Then let the collector decide for themselves if they want to take the chance one way or the other and make up their own mind.

On III. Any time that we can identify these. LAMP condemns and will GLADLY report ANY information about these to collectors.

 

 

 


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